tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12265028.post1353770076440923091..comments2024-03-28T06:16:03.231-07:00Comments on China Matters: A Massacre, RememberedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12265028.post-27046919269283277032014-06-05T21:41:03.260-07:002014-06-05T21:41:03.260-07:00Re Tiananmen, my feeling is that by June 3 the dem...Re Tiananmen, my feeling is that by June 3 the demonstrations were on their last legs as a political movement in Beijing. With Zhao Ziyang out and no political support w/in the high party leadership, the student presence in TAM was petering out. Deng sent in the army to demonstrate that the CCP would not accept any political role for the student leaders, and to overawe the mass movement that was all over PRC and reassert absolute party leadership. The army was primed not to yield to any challenge from demonstrators or the public on June 3-4 (unlike previous units sent into city), and killed a lot of people as they swept to TAM. Takeaway for CCP: political liberalization/nascent populism had eroded party discipline & almost tipped country into chaos. Loyalty to party line reasserted as absolute value. Task: pursue economic liberalization while preserving complete party unity. So far, done pretty well. Meanwhile, perception of dangers of political liberalization have increased, not decreased.China Handhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07137884672692120783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12265028.post-55105523852214203882014-06-04T20:14:02.405-07:002014-06-04T20:14:02.405-07:00Another great article. Its true we need fair and s...Another great article. Its true we need fair and square reports, not just in this Lugansk event but in everything. But thats not always the case is it? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08018919435270258010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12265028.post-30337815719419732762014-06-04T14:52:46.195-07:002014-06-04T14:52:46.195-07:00Thank you for a very interesting article. It was g...Thank you for a very interesting article. It was great. <br /><br />I wondered though about your conclusion regarding Tienanmen anniversary coverage, and I'm not talking about one from the mainstream outlets, but left/progressive/alternative ones. I get the sense that those outlets feel somewhat obliged to mention it once lest they risk appearing Stalinist ... mentioning once seems to give it an appearance of fairness or of balance "despite" the other more critical things about the West they usually report. <br /><br />Wouldn't it be just as eerie if we don't hear anything about it at all? (....but then it's true it's been 25 years .....)<br /><br />But you are right that it's also true that we ought to definitely hear more fair reports on what's going on in E. Ukraine, especially civilian deaths, and the Western hands in the crime. <br /><br />Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336065535437672212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12265028.post-15995852580416782562014-06-04T13:42:40.721-07:002014-06-04T13:42:40.721-07:00By the way: Do I understand the following article ...By the way: Do I understand the following article correctly and did the BBC, or at least one of his more knowledgeable journalists, admit that Beijing's version of the events of the Beijing Massacre (rioters killing officials, unarmed policemen, army only ordered in after the demonstrators become violent to quell general unrest) is more or less true? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-27685055Xinxihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01378494180022099219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12265028.post-43828107806654755722014-06-04T13:36:11.225-07:002014-06-04T13:36:11.225-07:00Please stop posting real news that are relevant an...Please stop posting real news that are relevant and important to-day. It only distracts the general public from getting worked up over events 25 years ago, m-kay?Xinxihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01378494180022099219noreply@blogger.com